YFN Lucci

YFN Lucci

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We asked YFN Lucci to come in because we wanted to talk about what makes an artist relatable. So we asked him about the music that’s got him through tough times and about the songs he’s made that express his deepest feelings.

Lucci's music is multidimensional, but as you’ll hear in this interview, his intentions are serious. This is him being heartfelt, and we’re really grateful he opened up to us about his family and and the about future he’s building for himself.

ALI SHAHEED MUHAMMAD: YFN Lucci is in the cribbo. What's happening?

YFN LUCCI: Aye, what's going on?

FRANNIE KELLEY: Thank you for coming.

ALI: Yeah, thank you for coming.

YFN LUCCI: I appreciate y’all for having me.

ALI: Let's talk about where you come from a little bit, from Atlanta. Is it Summerhill?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, that's what's the name of the neighborhood.

ALI: Tell us about it.

YFN LUCCI: I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, the neighborhood called Summerhill. It's by the Atlanta Braves stadium, Turner Field, the old stadium, cause they have a new one now. It's close to downtown. It's not no rich community or nothing, but it's a big community, no apartments. You know how like some kids grow up in some apartments. It's like a community, and it's just a lot of kids there. We all went to school, and we grew up playing basketball and rapping and trying to just make it out the hood. We all had dreams, and one of mine was rapping.

ALI: Just one?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, just one. One of them was rapping.

FRANNIE: What were the other ones?

YFN LUCCI: I wanted to be a doctor. I wanted to do some acting. I wanted to go to college. And just I could've did anything long as I was out the hood, cause I had a job, a good job.

ALI: So doctors, they heal.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah.

ALI: Do you feel like you're healing people with the music a little bit?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, of course, of course. I know it's a lot of people out there that can relate to a lot of things I go through, so I talk about things I go through in my music. Like from not having when I was growing up to my mama couldn't pay the rent, or, you know, a lot of people -- deaths, people dying. And I know people can relate to it, so I just talk about it. And I know growing up when I used to listen to music, that's the type of music I used to like, music I can relate to because I might be going through it one day, and then I listen to their song and it make me feel a lot better.

FRANNIE: Can you name an example, somebody that comes to mind?

YFN LUCCI: T.I. "Live In The Sky." That song right there, that's one of the songs I used to play when I was feeling down.

ALI: You have this theme of greatness. What is greatness to you?

YFN LUCCI: Man, greatness is, like, unstoppable, being the best, overcoming all your fears. It's just doing everything you wanna do, and handling your business, taking care of your family, you know. That's greatness to me.

ALI: That's greatness to me too.

YFN LUCCI: Appreciate it.

ALI: There's nothing better than being able to move your family out of an oppressed environment. There's something that you feel is not really supportive to growing as a community. At least -- I'll speak for myself. I love where I come from in Brooklyn, but there are certain aspects of the neighborhood that I didn't love, you know. And it shaped me. It gave me aspirations to do better, but still those lack of opportunities, you don't want that as an obstacle.

YFN LUCCI: But basically, just coming out of Summerhill, you had good kids, bad kids, and that's everywhere. So it wasn't like it was just dangerous, because it's up to you. It was, like, your decision. You can go hang with these people and do the dangerous stuff, or you can hang with these people and do, like, kid things. So it all balanced out.

ALI: I'm like, what is kids things these days? What is that?

YFN LUCCI: Oh yeah, these days is different. These days is different.

ALI: I remember what kid things were when I was like 10, 11. It's way different right now. Kids just grow up too quickly.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, you right.

FRANNIE: So how was it that rapping became the dream that you pursued?

YFN LUCCI: My big brother YFN KAY, he got me into rapping. He was one of my biggest inspirations. I was like 13. He's five years older than me, so he was like 18. And he used to come home with his own records. His name YFN KAY, by the way. He still rap with me. He be on the road with me everyday. But he used to come home everyday with his -- like, he'll have a song, a first verse, a hook, and a second verse, and it'll just be him. So that was always dope to me. Cause I always used to listen to music, and it sounded good, and I was like, "Damn. This is my brother."

So I started rapping one day. They were freestyling, and I freestyled, and they liked it. And they were like, "Man, you can be down." And then I started writing ever since then.

ALI: You remember what that freestyle was?

YFN LUCCI: Nah, nah, nah. I just said -- I was just rapping. I was just rapping.

But after that, I just kept staying with the dream, kept writing. When I was young, it was certain things I couldn't write about, because I didn't experience a lot. So as I grew and experienced more, I became a better writer. And I met -- one of my homeboy named Shay, he had a brother, and he used to just love my music. His name was Nut. He passed away, but he introduced me to Fly -- that's my CEO of Think It's A Game -- and they had made it happen.

ALI: You mentioned that, as a writer, there were things you hadn't experienced yet, so you didn't pursue that area of writing, like fantasy, why?

YFN LUCCI: Nah, it wasn't like I didn't pursue it. It was like, I used to write, and then I'd listen to some other people's songs, and I be like, "Damn, man. Why I can't make a song like that?" Cause it'll be deep, and then I guess maybe cause I haven't been through it. And then as I grew older I started going through things like girlfriend problems or somebody passing away or watching my mama struggling and just knowing like, "Damn, this what's going on." So then it made me -- like, I can talk about it now, you get it?

ALI: Why is that important to talk about something that you actually experienced versus something you didn't?

YFN LUCCI: To me, it feel more real. Like, you can relate. You can feel it. Instead of me just saying, "Oh I got a million dollars rapping on a song," than me getting on it and just expressing all my real feelings and what I'm going through, you can feel it. You can feel my pain.

ALI: And listening to your music makes me wonder who are the actual faces. I try to picture the faces of people that's against you, that oppose you. Because you speak about adversity in such a way, and it just seems like you're a very charismatic and forward thinker, and you have a goal set. So it just makes me wonder in listening to the music like, "Who are these people he's talking about?" You don't have to name names are anything like that but just --

YFN LUCCI: Nah nah nah nah. I talk about family like my mother, my big brother. All my friends I hang around now, we grew up with each other since I was in the third grade. So it might be some of they names I say, and basically that be it. I be talking about people around me on a daily basis, my auntie who passed away. I got a cousin who passed away. She was a girl named Muffin. And I just talk about people around me.

ALI: What was it about your auntie that really made that impression for you to speak on it?

YFN LUCCI: My auntie died when I was like 4 years old, 4 or 5, and my pops was driving. It was on New Year's Eve, and this was my mother only sister. When she passed, it just -- I seen how my mother was hurt, and my grandmother. That's all we really had. That's our family. My auntie was -- she was my mother little sister, but she was like her big sister too on the low. So it just made me want to step up, so I can be able to -- whatever they can't do for her, I'ma be able to do it, or I'ma try to be able to do it. And it just made me want to handle business and grow up and take care of my family, my mother.

My pops was driving. It was on New Year's Eve. They was going to the liquor store. It was probably five minutes away. Soon as they turned out of the apartments and went down the hill, they hit a tree. And my pops said his foot had got stuck under the pedal so he couldn't hit the break, and they hit the tree. And we went down there. We was on the scene. I remember everything like it was yesterday.

ALI: Wow. And you were 4?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah. I remember everything. But ever since then, I just knew stuff was real, and I gotta take life serious. You know, I got good friends -- you got some friends who get in a lot of trouble, but that's why I chose not to be with them when they was getting in trouble, cause I knew life was serious.

ALI: Do any of those friends kind of take lessons from your steps? Have you talked to anyone that was around, that you felt was a little misdirected, they wasn't catching on, and now they see your success? They look up to you like, "I get it now?"

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, I got friends that when we was younger -- when I was like 15, 16, I had three friends go to jail for five years, ten years, so they came home and they just seen the path I took and see what I'm doing now, and then they be around me now and they see how I be moving and handling business. It just inspired them to not just want to stay up in the hood and do regular hood stuff. They want to get jobs and stuff. They want to better themselves. They don't think hood no more.

And not just them, even my friends who grew up with me and watched me do this, like my big brother, he rapping. My brother Trae Pound, he started rapping. And they good at it. Everybody real good. We got our own style, our own sound like my brother, and he don't sound like Trae Pound. And they got inspired off of me, but then it inspired me too, to see them rapping and wanting it too. And they doing it. So it go both --

ALI: You tell everybody they all can't be rappers, alright?

YFN LUCCI: Oh yeah, everybody know they can't be rappers.

ALI: They can do other --

YFN LUCCI: It's like a business. You got the boss. You got the person who -- the radio people. You got the PR. Everybody gotta play their own role. Everybody can't do the same thing. So they know that.

ALI: That's good.

FRANNIE: How would you describe your style?

YFN LUCCI: My style would be probably very melodic, not too hype. I have fun. And real, everything relatable. Heartfelt, everything is heartfelt.

ALI: You do a lot of singing in addition to rapping. I know some of your MC influences, but who are some of the singers that influenced you?

YFN LUCCI: My mama always tell me this story. When I was young, she had to hide the R. Kelly 12 Play CD from me. She said I used to play that a lot, but I would say R. Kelly, Ashanti. I got a lot. Pleasure P. Let me think hard. Mary J. Blige. Chris Brown. The Isley Brothers. I could go all day. Let me see. Beyoncé. Rihanna.

ALI: You gonna get some of these people in the studio with you?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, hopefully one day. I'm looking forward to working with Rihanna and Beyoncé if they down to it.

ALI: What do you want people to get from your music? Album when they're listening to it, and then from stage performances.

YFN LUCCI: When you listening to my music I want you to learn. I want you to learn that life ain't a game. Slip ups count. You can't make mistakes. Well, everybody make mistakes, but the wrong mistake can cost you. And you know, more of, like, take care of your family, your mother, your kids. Invest. Don't go broke, get some money and don't just spend it on everything, you know what I'm saying? And live, and enjoy life. You only got one life to live so enjoy it.

ALI: This is true. You saying that reminded me of I had this aunt, and I remember when I got my contract, I was 18, and she said same thing. One, she didn't really want me to make music cause she thought it was a road to nowhere. She feels differently now. But that's because I put the work in to prove that it wasn't just like, "Oh yeah,  I signed a deal to goof off." I was real serious about just everything that I do.

But I remember her talking about investing. It's funny when you hear that, cause you hear people say that, but I think what's missing from our community is actually someone giving you a road map as to what are the possible things you can invest in --

YFN LUCCI: Invest in, and how to do it.

ALI: -- and how to do it. Cause there's ways that the Johnson and Johnsons and the Googles and the Ubers -- there's a way that they got to that point, be it through venture capital -- there's so many other different things. So could you take something that you learned and give a little bit more insight than just saying invest?

YFN LUCCI: With my house? I paid off my house, cause it's like an investment. I know if I buy a house rather than having $300,000 or however much it was sitting around, it's my house, I can sell it. I can rent it, make money. And that's income I ain't gotta really worry about. It's an asset.

ALI: Increases in value.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah. With anything that you invest in, it's gonna be an asset. You're not going to be having to worry about spending money. You're going to be making money. You have to invest because -- like, I'm a rapper, right? But who say I can rap forever? I know I'm going to be rapping now, but if I going to invest, I still be making this money on the side, and when rapping stop, I still have my business that I investing in.

ALI: I tell young up and coming artists, I'm like, diversify man. And they like, "What does that mean?" I say, well, usually they say that in stocks. In terms of stocks, it means if you have a computer stock like Apple, and then you have another computer stock like Google, you're not diversified. Or if you have a gas, you have Mobil and Chevron. Those are two of the same things, so you don't wanna do that.

But in terms of career diversity, I like to apply it to obviously if you're in a studio, you're recording. You're investing in that part, but then it opens up other doors where you can start having conversations about growing your brand. For example, so it's like, brand. What's the brand? You are brand. You can generate dollars. You can generate other revenues of income and other opportunities, so venture out and don't see yourself just as a singer or a rapper, but see yourself as a business.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, you right. Entrepreneur.

ALI: Entrepreneur.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, because rapping brings sponsorships. You can be an actor just cause they like how you look off of rapping. So it opens up a lot of doors.

ALI: Can we talk about Bigga Rankin?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah.

ALI: Who's Bigga Rankin?

YFN LUCCI: Bigga Rankin is a big time DJ. I'ma say big time -- a legendary DJ.

But I linked with Bigga Rankin on my first mixtape, 2014, and we sat in the studio, and I played all my songs. It was my first time meeting him, and I had my friends in the room, and I played my music. And once I started, everybody was singing my words, like word for word every song, and he told me that amazed him. Cause he was like, "No matter where you go sometimes, your friend your friend, but if the song don't sound good he still not going to sing it. He might sing a couple of words, but every word word for word?" So he was like that amazed him.

And then we was talking and we just built a bond. And he talked on my intro. Then he took me on a street and greet tour through the streets, and we just had a bond. And he felt my music. He like how I talk about my mama and I help my mama. And that how we just grew. Basically he just been helping me throughout my career.

ALI: That's dope. I hadn't heard of him until just listening to your albums, and it's just like hearing his voice -- you have him set off a couple of albums, right? So one, I just love hearing his voice, cause it's like you warming up for your life or whatever it is you about to do. It's something about his voice. I don't know what it is.

YFN LUCCI: Bigga is like god to me. Times when I might be going through it with my friends or anybody, Bigga call me and he'll know. He'll just be like, "Man, you know you gotta make things right. That's your man or that's your -- if he ain't going to talk to you, you go talk to him. Cause you gotta make it right. You need your team to win." He be like, "I like seeing ya'll happy together." And the words he say, the things he tell me, it be like he's true, and he telling the world my story and his voice just make you believe it.

ALI: Do you go making records now thinking about him?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah. Anybody I'm close with, everything they tell me, the talks -- we sit and talk -- when I make my music all that be in my head, cause I wanna better myself, and I wanna show people that I listen. So once they hear something, be like, "Damn, he listened to me." So that's all the time.

FRANNIE: Everything that you've said so far sounds like it sort of led you toward Think It's A Game. So I'm just wondering what did you see in Think It's A Game and why did you think it would be a good fit for you?

YFN LUCCI: Well at first, Think It's A Game, they had Rich Homie Quan. They had Trinidad James. So they were big artists, and that don't just make me just jump out there. I still met Fly before I signed a contract. I think we kicked it for like a year, and I used to let him hear my music, and we just used to talk.

And the things he tell me -- everybody don't tell you everything, so he'll tell you like, "Man, when we get you a deal, bro, don't just blow your money. Get you a spot to stay in. Go get you a car, so you have something to show for your money instead of like not having it, and go spend" -- or he'll tell me, "Invest or we ain't going to do this. This how we going to do it." And he made me kind of believe and that brought me closer to, "I feel like I can sign."

FRANNIE: He was taking life as seriously as you are.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah. It wasn't like, "Just sign." "Come with me. I'ma teach you things, I don't want to see you mess up your money." And somebody telling you that -- where I come from a lot of people don't tell you nothing, so somebody telling you that that it made me feel like that might be the right place for me. Ever since I signed I been going up.

FRANNIE: Do you have conversations ever, you and Rich Homie or you and Fly, about kind of the melodic approach and then also the singing and the appeal of that to a lot of people?

YFN LUCCI: I think my fans just love my voice. I won't never try to say I sing too much, cause it really is my voice. If I just rap, my voice kind of still going to be a high pitched voice. So we ain't never had no conversation about my sound, but we say "try new things" a lot.

ALI: Who was challenging you the most in the studio, that make you go, "Ah I gotta go back in?"

YFN LUCCI: My brother YFN KAY.

ALI: Yeah?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah. I might make the hardest song in the world to me, then I let my brother hear it, and he be like, "Nah, that ain't it, man. You can do better than that." Or he'll just tell me certain parts, "You shouldn't have said this. You shouldn't have said that word" or something. So I say my brother, but it's a good thing. Cause you don't need yes men around you.

ALI: This is true. You don't get better unless you have somebody point things out to you.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah.

ALI: What do you look for musically in the track?

YFN LUCCI: The beat first. The beat gotta be nice. The beat has to be -- you gotta be able to feel the beat first, cause if you feel the beat first, as soon as you play the beat, anybody who can feel the beat, they going to start moving around. So I look for instruments, guitar sounds, piano sounds, snares, and I just be wanting it to be musical. I don't be wanting it just drums. I want it to have music in it.

Before I go on the beat, it depends on what vibe it is. Because a lot of people like to have fun, I be thinking like should I go club vibe, fun vibe, or should I rap about a girl, or should I just rap about real things? It's what I look for in my music. I don't look for, "Oh, I'ma just go ahead and rap." I sit there and think first and be like, "Oh, this what I'ma talk about."

ALI: How long does it take you sometimes to write the song?

YFN LUCCI: To be honest, I write, and I go in the booth and just -- it's writing to me, but some people would say it's not writing. I say it's writing because if I'm writing on the paper, I got to say it first and then I write it and think of another line, write it. But I just go in the booth. Sometime I might just harmonize over the beat, using my voice as the instrument, and I just go back and listen to it and try to figure out what it's saying, cause it always saying something. And I fill in the words, and that's how my process be sometimes.

ALI: Yeah, I know a lot of great writers that that's their process. They'll go in, listen to the music, and scat a rhythm. No words, just the dun dun dun dun, and then they go back in and turn all of that into words. It's so magical to me.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, that's what I do. A lot of people say it's amazing. But sometimes it can take an hour. Sometimes it can take two, three hours. Sometimes it can take 30 minutes. It just depends on the vibe and how I'm feeling, and I guess how the words coming out.

ALI: Yeah. Was there anything that took like a month?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, yeah. Plenty of times. "Destined" on my Wish Me Well. Probably "Talk That Shit." Some songs take longer than that, because I might start on it and just ride around and listen to it for months, probably longer than a month, for months. And then I go back into it and finish it. Because I feel like I don't wanna go the same way on it, so I wait to where next time I hear the beat, I know I'ma have a whole 'nother style to rap on or sing or however I go.

ALI: Since you said you spit bars, you got bars, have you you had any challenges? Cause you asked me earlier --

YFN LUCCI: What you mean challenges?

ALI: Like challenges, like someone want to just --

YFN LUCCI: Rap against me?

ALI: Rap against you. Cause you asked me to tell you about what it was back then. I know if you said something like that, it would be nonstop challenges.

YFN LUCCI: Nah. I haven't really had no challenges.

ALI: Nah? They understand.

YFN LUCCI: It's kind of different though like how we said. Some people want to challenge me probably, but not the people in the music business who's in the industry, cause you don't have to have bars to sell music. So the people who are in the industry they not going to challenge me. I don't know.

ALI: I got you.

FRANNIE: Makes sense. So when you were talking about singers that you like a lot, a lot of those people made romantic records, sometimes break up records, sometimes, like, it's going well-type records. Is that a lane that you see yourself sort of satisfying? Is that something that you think has been missing from what people listen to, from what is happening in popular music?

YFN LUCCI: Nah, because I got a lot of --

FRANNIE: Other things as well?

YFN LUCCI: Yeah. I got a lot of romantic songs for women.

FRANNIE: Did you start doing that because you thought there weren't enough of them out here?

YFN LUCCI: Oh. Nah, nah, nah. I just started doing that because -- nah, that is one of the reasons too, because they don't make good slow music like that anymore.

FRANNIE: That's what I'm saying

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, you right. But I just love the slow music. I always wanted to make my own. I know girls ain't going to just rap gangster songs all day. I wanted to write a song that a girl can sing and fall in love with and sing it for 30 years.

FRANNIE: That's good. We do need that I would say.

YFN LUCCI: Cause that would last long. You turn on the radio, you going to hear "At Your Best" Aaliyah, that song. Isley Brothers. You're going to hear all that classic music. I want to make classic music.

ALI: Tell us about your shows and your performances. What do you like about the stage?

YFN LUCCI: First off, I just like that everybody recite my words with me, like word for word. I thank god for that. I thank them for that. I'm grateful for that. I'm most thankful for that. That's all I ever wanted. Like, before I became a rapper, I used to watch videos and be like, "Man, I wonder if they going to sing my song like that." Now I walk in the stadiums or club, and everybody singing it word for word. The girls grabbing on me. The males want to dap me up, be cool. It just feels good, the love.

And it don't be fake love. You know fake love. I guess from the way my music is and how I be talking and they feel like they can relate to me, so it just feel like they know me. So when they see me, it already feel like they know me, so they be ready to just at least try to talk to me or walk up, at least get a handshake or anything. So that be the best.

And performing, I love performing, I be feeling like Michael Jackson, even though I'm a rapper. It just feel like it my stage. I'm up here. I get to take over. I get to do what I want to do. I get to paint my picture, and they going to watch and pay attention.

ALI: Do you remember the city that you performed in that made you go -- you're performing, you're on stage, and the response is so overwhelming that in that instance while you were there you just took it back to mama, took it back to Summerhill like --

YFN LUCCI: I got, like, two. I can say two. I can say Cincinnati in Ohio. I think it was at Celebrities, my first time there. It was so lit. I got three. I got three. And then Baltimore. I forgot the club name in Baltimore, but it just the way everybody standing around, standing up, the lights on, everybody smiling, camera phones out. It just make you just -- you think about everything, not even just that. You think about since -- I go back to when I was 4 years old. I think about my auntie and everything. Like, "Dang. I wish y’all could see this." And Houston, Houston my third city. My first time in Houston, it was crazy.

ALI: Yeah, yeah. It was kind of like that too for us. First time we went to Houston, it blew our minds. And again I was talking to you earlier about Scarface. Scarface from the Geto Boys had come and greeted us, which made us feel like, "Yo Scarface is here? Like, it's the welcome committee." And the show was just live. So it makes you --

YFN LUCCI: One hell of a feeling.

ALI: Yeah. You think about just, you know, the stereotypes of what you get. I'll say this coming from the North, cause you live in the South. But just the stereotypes you get. And even though we have family and cousins in the South, New York just has a different feeling. And so specifically on Texas, you don't think that in Texas they mess with hip-hop so hard, so when you go down there and it's a hug, like a family reunion kind of thing, you're like, "Yo, this is incredible." It's good to hear that that city still is giving that feeling. I don't know what it is. I can't describe it.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, it's just, I don't know, that love.

ALI: I don't know what you got planned next -- I usually don't like asking people that question --

YFN LUCCI: I'm working on my album.

ALI: OK.

YFN LUCCI: Yeah, man. Well, the album is done.

It's called Ray Ray From Summerhill, and of course I'm Ray Ray. My real name Rayshawn Bennett, and everybody called me Ray Ray growing up, and I'm from Summerhill. And so that's why I'm going with that for my first title, for my first album. And you know it's gonna be big. It's gonna be crazy. The elevation, I done got better, the growth. You can hear what I'm talking about. The sound, my beat selection, the producer that I been working with, everything on point, so I think it's going to be good. I know it's going to be good.

FRANNIE: What's the song that you're the most proud of and that you can't wait for people to hear?

YFN LUCCI: Probably -- dang, man, I got a lot of them. First off, I'm ready for them to hear the whole album. I got a song on there called "I Wanna Be There" with Monica and Wale. I got a song called "Keep Your Head Up" I want them to hear with me and T.I. And "At My Best." I got one called "At My Best." I'm looking forward to them hearing every song though, but they gonna love those.

ALI: That's dope. We looking forward to -- I don't want to say just your record because it's more than that -- just that feeling that you bring and inspiring people to definitely chase their dreams, not chase it but pursue it. The one thing that I hear about you is that you are so committed and dedicated, and if you're going to be successful in the music business you have to take it seriously. You can't just be where, "Oh I gotta record that's on the radio and I arrived." There's so much more to it than that, and you definitely -- you put that greatness up on it. It's like the bat signal in the sky, the things that you can possibly achieve. So you're an inspiration for this younger generation, man. So just looking forward to it.

YFN LUCCI: I appreciate that. I got to inspire the youth, because if I don't, I don't know what's going to happen right now. Like you said, kid things ain't kid things like they used to be. So I gotta keep it going. I got kids. I got four kids. I can't have them growing up listening to stuff that make them do crazy things. I want to teach them and let them know they -- more like, "This is what you gotta do. You have to do this." That's it though.

ALI: I have a feeling your kids are going to have -- I don't know, and I don't know you, but I feel like they're not gonna have it easy, because I don't think you gonna let them just like get away with it so easily. I know you had to grind hard to get to it, right, so it's not going to be like --

YFN LUCCI: Real hard. No hand outs.

FRANNIE: He's like the Warren Buffett of hip-hop.

ALI: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, ah, man, his kids going to be like, "Nah come back. You gotta come back."

FRANNIE: You're on your own.

ALI: Not on your own, but just like --

YFN LUCCI: You see what I did. It ain't just rolled out to you. Go do something like I did. Show me something.

ALI: That's what's up.

YFN LUCCI: It's possible.

ALI: Indeed. Thank you again.

FRANNIE: Yeah, thank you.

YFN LUCCI: I appreciate y'all having me.

FRANNIE: Thank you for your time. And good luck with everything.

YFN LUCCI: By the way, I am YFN Lucci, and I'm here. Ray Ray From Summerhill on the way.

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